And finally, returning to the hot springs (womb), I was sharing how the penultimate experience of merging with all under the influence of 5-Me-O-DMT is just this direct seeing how that is all there is. And then, integrating that from a Buddhist perspective, there is this striking paradox in looking at how screwed up the world is, and trying to reconcile that with what you have directly SEEN, finally realizing that permeating all this contrary appearance is love. But also, I've realized more recently, permeating all these complimentary appearances! It's like the Zen koan I find most mysterious and fruitful to work with: "Everything is OK"
Regarding our ancestors "in-forming" the intelligence of our connected hearts, and as Dallas said, even healing trauma in that dark space, I'm reminded of Carl Jung's belief, revealed in "Lament of the Dead" (a convo about his Red Book), that the dead, our ancestors, are more alive than the living, because they are seeking redemption through us. It really speaks to the work Hubl and you are doing, Matthew. And what we see in the world. If only we were just more open to that seeking-ness collectively.
Ah, I just have to pause this here on the crucial point you are all making about the NATURE of love, and really how our cultural notions of love get in the way of our actually experiencing the generative FORCE of love in our lives. Dallas and I were actually discussing this at a hot springs recently, there in the womb of our Mother. And as synchronicity would have it, this morning I was just doing some shadow work (inspired by Matthew) around my sense of ENTITLEMENT, which I want to share with you. I had the great good fortune of having an incredibly loving mother, and as the youngest of 4 I had her all to myself from the age of 2-5, which was like living in a Julie Andrews musical! But somewhere along the line, my innate sense that I deserved this special favor got twisted into I deserve it MORE THAN OTHERS! Which is backwards, of course: EVERYONE deserves to be raised with that kind of love, but most do not get it. By self-liberating this shadow "entitled" self, I've let loose all this compassion for others; i.e., instead of seeing them as being not as deserving, somehow, I can see them as having been unfairly deprived, and I can cultivate a strong wish that they receive this love in their next life, and even that maybe I can be the one who gives it to them. So my main point here is that it is one thing to desire that BIG love, but in order to be open to receiving it, we all have work to do regarding our diminished, or even traumatized, notions of love, deserving, etc. It is this idea that we don't deserve that big love, that it is something being justifiably withheld from us, that seems to fuel all religion in the world. Thank you my loves!
Zhiwa, beautiful to receive this depth of reflection in response to our dialogue! I can also relate to the shadow of entitlement -- and I very much appreciate you sharing your process around it here; and your pointer to the resolution, and the generosity that can grow from that. Aslo love what you said about ancestral work and your 5MEO DMT experience -- and directly perceiving that ALL is permeated with love. Let's keep supporting one another to keep this realisation a felt-experience, and impulse for action!
I only got to watch the video now. Wow! Thanks, Matthew, Roberta and Dallas for this — as well as the other three — inspiring, uplifting, exhilarating video with its palpaple energy transmission effortlessly transmitting itself from your conversation and sharing into my system.
What really felt like an epiphanic clicking into place for me in this conversation was Roberta‘s “It‘s not ‘the power of love‘. Love IS the power.“ Having grown up Germany with its horrid history of the Holocaust, to hear things called by their true names so clearly and succinctly was a sort of liberation and a veil drawn from my mind‘s eyes, truth seen and felt. All those power-over forces active in the world are a travesty of the only real power and energy there is: of love. In the absence of love, and within a strong enough field of trauma, they can become top movers in a society or community — delude and derange minds and hearts and multiply the pieces of broken glass through which the individuals of that society, that community look at themselves, each other and the world at large — and can seem like ultimate powers, but only as long as love is not a felt part and bedrock of the life of that society, that community. They are forces set in motion, offered space to grow and become strong by a lack of love, derivatives of a lack of love, not of the same, sublime quality as love itself. Thank you so much for this insight!
And thank you, Dallas, for sharing “One mind, one heart, one spirit“. I feel like this could be a very powerful formula for a conscious nature and Earth interbeing (I do not want to write “conservation“, because life is continually emerging and transforming, not staying static, nor “environmental“, because we humans are not the hub and centre of Earth but one of its many parts and facets, even if a very prominent and forceful one) activism to ground itself on and roll it out as a foundation and means to rally and ally: including and bringing into consciousness (and hence activating) the power of love not only of human activists, but the energy, capabilities and intelligence of all life forms and Earth.
Anne, so delighted to hear our dialogue landed for you in this way; and so appreciate the vividness of your description above of the insight that arrived in your system. Yes, Roberta's point that "Love IS power" seemed so pivotal -- as if our series of dialogues had been building towards the realisations she delivered in this one. I also loved what Dallas said about "One mind, one heart, one spirit." It's very affirming to receive this resonance from you, and it encourages me to move forward with plans to create more podcasts in 2025!
Everything shared was so resonant for me, as well. Love as the ground of being. I love the upsurge of love that is invoked when something digests and integrates, and how we can feel a little more of the essence of love present in the room and our being as a result. I also felt precision landing strongly. I often say I love the feeling of efficiency in healing, but I’m realizing it’s actually precision that I am referring to, because in precise moments I feel the ground of being.
And finally, returning to the hot springs (womb), I was sharing how the penultimate experience of merging with all under the influence of 5-Me-O-DMT is just this direct seeing how that is all there is. And then, integrating that from a Buddhist perspective, there is this striking paradox in looking at how screwed up the world is, and trying to reconcile that with what you have directly SEEN, finally realizing that permeating all this contrary appearance is love. But also, I've realized more recently, permeating all these complimentary appearances! It's like the Zen koan I find most mysterious and fruitful to work with: "Everything is OK"
Regarding our ancestors "in-forming" the intelligence of our connected hearts, and as Dallas said, even healing trauma in that dark space, I'm reminded of Carl Jung's belief, revealed in "Lament of the Dead" (a convo about his Red Book), that the dead, our ancestors, are more alive than the living, because they are seeking redemption through us. It really speaks to the work Hubl and you are doing, Matthew. And what we see in the world. If only we were just more open to that seeking-ness collectively.
Ah, I just have to pause this here on the crucial point you are all making about the NATURE of love, and really how our cultural notions of love get in the way of our actually experiencing the generative FORCE of love in our lives. Dallas and I were actually discussing this at a hot springs recently, there in the womb of our Mother. And as synchronicity would have it, this morning I was just doing some shadow work (inspired by Matthew) around my sense of ENTITLEMENT, which I want to share with you. I had the great good fortune of having an incredibly loving mother, and as the youngest of 4 I had her all to myself from the age of 2-5, which was like living in a Julie Andrews musical! But somewhere along the line, my innate sense that I deserved this special favor got twisted into I deserve it MORE THAN OTHERS! Which is backwards, of course: EVERYONE deserves to be raised with that kind of love, but most do not get it. By self-liberating this shadow "entitled" self, I've let loose all this compassion for others; i.e., instead of seeing them as being not as deserving, somehow, I can see them as having been unfairly deprived, and I can cultivate a strong wish that they receive this love in their next life, and even that maybe I can be the one who gives it to them. So my main point here is that it is one thing to desire that BIG love, but in order to be open to receiving it, we all have work to do regarding our diminished, or even traumatized, notions of love, deserving, etc. It is this idea that we don't deserve that big love, that it is something being justifiably withheld from us, that seems to fuel all religion in the world. Thank you my loves!
Zhiwa, beautiful to receive this depth of reflection in response to our dialogue! I can also relate to the shadow of entitlement -- and I very much appreciate you sharing your process around it here; and your pointer to the resolution, and the generosity that can grow from that. Aslo love what you said about ancestral work and your 5MEO DMT experience -- and directly perceiving that ALL is permeated with love. Let's keep supporting one another to keep this realisation a felt-experience, and impulse for action!
I only got to watch the video now. Wow! Thanks, Matthew, Roberta and Dallas for this — as well as the other three — inspiring, uplifting, exhilarating video with its palpaple energy transmission effortlessly transmitting itself from your conversation and sharing into my system.
What really felt like an epiphanic clicking into place for me in this conversation was Roberta‘s “It‘s not ‘the power of love‘. Love IS the power.“ Having grown up Germany with its horrid history of the Holocaust, to hear things called by their true names so clearly and succinctly was a sort of liberation and a veil drawn from my mind‘s eyes, truth seen and felt. All those power-over forces active in the world are a travesty of the only real power and energy there is: of love. In the absence of love, and within a strong enough field of trauma, they can become top movers in a society or community — delude and derange minds and hearts and multiply the pieces of broken glass through which the individuals of that society, that community look at themselves, each other and the world at large — and can seem like ultimate powers, but only as long as love is not a felt part and bedrock of the life of that society, that community. They are forces set in motion, offered space to grow and become strong by a lack of love, derivatives of a lack of love, not of the same, sublime quality as love itself. Thank you so much for this insight!
And thank you, Dallas, for sharing “One mind, one heart, one spirit“. I feel like this could be a very powerful formula for a conscious nature and Earth interbeing (I do not want to write “conservation“, because life is continually emerging and transforming, not staying static, nor “environmental“, because we humans are not the hub and centre of Earth but one of its many parts and facets, even if a very prominent and forceful one) activism to ground itself on and roll it out as a foundation and means to rally and ally: including and bringing into consciousness (and hence activating) the power of love not only of human activists, but the energy, capabilities and intelligence of all life forms and Earth.
Anne, so delighted to hear our dialogue landed for you in this way; and so appreciate the vividness of your description above of the insight that arrived in your system. Yes, Roberta's point that "Love IS power" seemed so pivotal -- as if our series of dialogues had been building towards the realisations she delivered in this one. I also loved what Dallas said about "One mind, one heart, one spirit." It's very affirming to receive this resonance from you, and it encourages me to move forward with plans to create more podcasts in 2025!
Everything shared was so resonant for me, as well. Love as the ground of being. I love the upsurge of love that is invoked when something digests and integrates, and how we can feel a little more of the essence of love present in the room and our being as a result. I also felt precision landing strongly. I often say I love the feeling of efficiency in healing, but I’m realizing it’s actually precision that I am referring to, because in precise moments I feel the ground of being.