Hello Matthew, great to listen to this podcast, and Charlie has done great work in this space, especially with his veteran retreats and work on PTSD. I did reply on your linked in post about this podcast. As you know, the treatment of nightmares is something i have been interested in since 2015 and that's what my PhD was on, and I have been training therapists and spreading the word into my Dream Completion Technique, which is quite different from Lucid dreaming, which is changing things from within the dream. Its not easy to lucid dream, and I would also say not for the fainthearted, but I'm sure Charlies's course gets people there. This was a BBC intervniew I did last April on my pro-bono work helping the people of Ukraine: https://youtu.be/ur6zPoFN_zQ
Justin, great to hear from you! I hadn't seen your BBC interivew, that is really amazing work. Exciting to feel the healing power of dreams moving into wider awareness!
Another fascinating dialoguing by Resonant Men on the edge of evolutionary change, Matthew! I appreciate your shifting journalistic style IS opening the ways we can look at trauma and revolutionize how we mainstream the collective intelligence we all have access to heal. I like how Charlie reminded us we have forgotten how to lucid dream but can be gently prompted how to remember 👍and if you don’t mind my saying, his course on Shadow work and your idea to add Dream journaling into your Resonant Men and sometimes Resonant women collective is a great idea to put into action. There’s even a course like this called “Dream Tending” at a university called Pacifica in California that encourages the very same - Lucid dreaming plus a dream journal to record discoveries and share in safe space parts that resonate around central ancestral archetypal themes. I found This is powerful medicine for our collective and often complex ptsd problems - as Charlie also reminded us complex PTSD is more prevalent than single event PTSD and all trauma is traumatizing whether it’s big T or little T yet can be treated with blending medicines like lucid dreaming yoga nidra and mindfulness Thank you - Resonant Men - for revolutionizing talk about how we treat our trauma and showing us what else is possible when it comes to healing the deeply hidden wounds of complex ptsd - including moral injury. Let’s …Dream on 🙂
Thanks Matt and Charlie. Genuinely fascinating. Beyond tackling ptsd and trauma, it is easy to think about so many applications of lucid dreaming to living a better life.
Love it! Dreaming is such an untapped potential that everyone has at their finger tips each night. I’ve been working with dreaming as a healing and transformational modality, almost every night for the last 15 years. And since this fall, I’ve felt intensely like it could be a game changer as a collective practice for healing. I was taught that any healing modality practiced within a dream is exponentially more effective than during wakefulness. This holds huge potential. In dream space we step outside of time and space as we know it, the rules that govern time in waking life are mute, so that means that I can have a dream that only takes 1 min of sleeping time, but within the dream weeks may have gone by. My husband will often laugh at me when I doze off for a moment and then I wake to tell of an epic tale I experienced in that short time that was just a few minutes long. Huge changes and shifts can occur in moments of sleep time, not to mention how we contact the subconscious without our usual filters. It becomes a beautiful dance and conversation between the everyday world and the dream world. We can dream a new world into being through the transformation we can experience through dream healing. I look forward to listening to your conversation above in the next days.
Wow so great to hear about your dream practice! beautiful to hear how alive this resource is for you. I also keep a dream diary, but can can go many days or weeks without really having anything I can remember enough to record. But sometimes something comes through that is very powerful.
I got a chance to listen to your recorded conversation and I love the idea that dreaming is free to everyone and ridiculously effective in treating trauma. I’ve been taking what I learned originally 15years ago, about incubating and unpacking dreams and ways to consciously work within dreams, and started introducing what we practice with Thomas Hubl. We begin with a 3 sync, relate to the earth and ancestors, relate to the light of our soul, relate to the group, I feel you feeling me…and then we begin to work with a dream. As people share a dream, we feel and listen with eyes and ears all over our bodies, noticing what’s arising physically, emotionally and mentally and share from what’s arising. So, it can go from a mentally analyzing experience into this emergent space with a dream, where healing unfolds and new possibility rises.
I also see big shifts in working in the waking dream space with people where we can do dream re-entry and ask for a correction and then notice what happens, but the potential of lucid dreaming has been on my radar for the last 2 years. Back in June, leading up to the Solstice, I was dreaming with the intention to harness the power and potential of lucid dreaming, as a response to a number of synchronous events and a lucid dream I had where myself and a fellow dream worker of mine, wake up in a dream and go through an ancestral healing process. So, I’m very excited about the potential as a collective healing practice. When big changes need to happen in a short period of time, dreaming is both elegant and effective.
Thanks - enjoying your varied and interesting content here. I also have set up a new set of resources that can be purchased at www.stopnightmares.org although my 5 min animation will always be free
Matthew/Charlie: Thank-you. Yes - I have clear memories of Lucid Dreaming as a child in primary school days - when I was still a single digit number - seven, eight years old? I have memories of maybe three times in my life waking with heart-thumping fear - knowing only that I had had a nightmare - no memory of what I had dreamed. And for many many years - even though knowing that surely I must have had dreams - really awaking thinking - another night - no dreams. In the past year or so - knowing I had been dreaming but that the instant I awoke - the memory of the dream itself dissolved. At present I am awaking with some images of some scenes! I will check out the lucid dream tutorials on YouTube - maybe I can get to the stage - I want to - that's for sure - and yes, sure - there are traumas in my life to get to grips with - not of the order necessarily of the Vets and others you spoke of - perhaps - but as you both said - we all suffer trauma/moral injury - betrayal - too! Thanks. Jim K
There could be some validity to the study regarding lucid dreaming. However, I would never suggest someone with diagnosed PTSD seek the services of someone without psychotherapy licensing or training. It’s a serious medical condition. The enthusiasm to help others is a great thing. And there are so many other better choices when it comes to healing from PTSD than a person that exclusively focuses on lucid dreaming.
In my experience:
— Ketamine is the most effective
— Neurofeedback and biofeedback are effective regulatory tools
— Somatic experiencing or body work is help with integration
— Ego state therapy or IFS offered by professional is helpful
— EMDR, Flash EMDR, hypnosis help with integration
— craniosacral therapy is helpful
Justin Havens in the UK works with elimination of nightmares and PTSD. He also uses flash EMDR which is highly effective.
I take issue with individuals who are trying to monetize and cash in on the ‘trauma informed’ trend. Trauma informed doesn’t really mean much as a term anymore. As a person with complex PTSD, yeah… working with someone that suggests they can reduce my symptoms of PTSD by whatever percentage with a very small sample size as a reference point — that would be a strong pass! Charlie Morley training people in 100 hours to work with clients with PTSD — not in the United States he’s not — at least not legally. We have laws around mental health licensing for good reason.
If people are being helped, great for them! But it’s never an ethical stance to offer one treatment as the silver bullet or the next greatest treatment to enhance one’s standing as a healer — as the one who can unlock the door and release one’s traumatic past.
People experience pain. People experience suffering. People experience grief. People experience rage and anger. People are violated. People are raped. People are almost killed. People are displaced and lose their homelands. People feel grief when their parents dies. People are not held. People are not supported. People have ancestors who were tortured. People have ancestors who were imprisoned.
These experiences often require therapy by licensed professionals trained in relational repair and attachment issues. Where do people go when they begin decompensation or flooding with trauma memories while in Charlie’s care?
Of course, Charlie’s got an online summit too. The winning formula to position yourself as an expert in the field. Do I get a free bonus prize when I sign up? Maybe a free beaded necklace?
Anna, thank you for your detailed and considered response; what you have written feels reflective of a deep hinterland of experience. I appreciate the time and attention you have given Resonant World.
Thank you, Matthew, for being sensitive and thoughtful. I realize that you mean well. I also become frustrated, at times by the way that trauma is framed in social media discourse. There’s obviously a lot of ways to conceptualize treatment as well as potential openings for innovation. I appreciate your curiosity and willingness to help others.
Hello Matthew, great to listen to this podcast, and Charlie has done great work in this space, especially with his veteran retreats and work on PTSD. I did reply on your linked in post about this podcast. As you know, the treatment of nightmares is something i have been interested in since 2015 and that's what my PhD was on, and I have been training therapists and spreading the word into my Dream Completion Technique, which is quite different from Lucid dreaming, which is changing things from within the dream. Its not easy to lucid dream, and I would also say not for the fainthearted, but I'm sure Charlies's course gets people there. This was a BBC intervniew I did last April on my pro-bono work helping the people of Ukraine: https://youtu.be/ur6zPoFN_zQ
Justin, great to hear from you! I hadn't seen your BBC interivew, that is really amazing work. Exciting to feel the healing power of dreams moving into wider awareness!
Another fascinating dialoguing by Resonant Men on the edge of evolutionary change, Matthew! I appreciate your shifting journalistic style IS opening the ways we can look at trauma and revolutionize how we mainstream the collective intelligence we all have access to heal. I like how Charlie reminded us we have forgotten how to lucid dream but can be gently prompted how to remember 👍and if you don’t mind my saying, his course on Shadow work and your idea to add Dream journaling into your Resonant Men and sometimes Resonant women collective is a great idea to put into action. There’s even a course like this called “Dream Tending” at a university called Pacifica in California that encourages the very same - Lucid dreaming plus a dream journal to record discoveries and share in safe space parts that resonate around central ancestral archetypal themes. I found This is powerful medicine for our collective and often complex ptsd problems - as Charlie also reminded us complex PTSD is more prevalent than single event PTSD and all trauma is traumatizing whether it’s big T or little T yet can be treated with blending medicines like lucid dreaming yoga nidra and mindfulness Thank you - Resonant Men - for revolutionizing talk about how we treat our trauma and showing us what else is possible when it comes to healing the deeply hidden wounds of complex ptsd - including moral injury. Let’s …Dream on 🙂
Thanks Matt and Charlie. Genuinely fascinating. Beyond tackling ptsd and trauma, it is easy to think about so many applications of lucid dreaming to living a better life.
Love it! Dreaming is such an untapped potential that everyone has at their finger tips each night. I’ve been working with dreaming as a healing and transformational modality, almost every night for the last 15 years. And since this fall, I’ve felt intensely like it could be a game changer as a collective practice for healing. I was taught that any healing modality practiced within a dream is exponentially more effective than during wakefulness. This holds huge potential. In dream space we step outside of time and space as we know it, the rules that govern time in waking life are mute, so that means that I can have a dream that only takes 1 min of sleeping time, but within the dream weeks may have gone by. My husband will often laugh at me when I doze off for a moment and then I wake to tell of an epic tale I experienced in that short time that was just a few minutes long. Huge changes and shifts can occur in moments of sleep time, not to mention how we contact the subconscious without our usual filters. It becomes a beautiful dance and conversation between the everyday world and the dream world. We can dream a new world into being through the transformation we can experience through dream healing. I look forward to listening to your conversation above in the next days.
Wow so great to hear about your dream practice! beautiful to hear how alive this resource is for you. I also keep a dream diary, but can can go many days or weeks without really having anything I can remember enough to record. But sometimes something comes through that is very powerful.
I got a chance to listen to your recorded conversation and I love the idea that dreaming is free to everyone and ridiculously effective in treating trauma. I’ve been taking what I learned originally 15years ago, about incubating and unpacking dreams and ways to consciously work within dreams, and started introducing what we practice with Thomas Hubl. We begin with a 3 sync, relate to the earth and ancestors, relate to the light of our soul, relate to the group, I feel you feeling me…and then we begin to work with a dream. As people share a dream, we feel and listen with eyes and ears all over our bodies, noticing what’s arising physically, emotionally and mentally and share from what’s arising. So, it can go from a mentally analyzing experience into this emergent space with a dream, where healing unfolds and new possibility rises.
I also see big shifts in working in the waking dream space with people where we can do dream re-entry and ask for a correction and then notice what happens, but the potential of lucid dreaming has been on my radar for the last 2 years. Back in June, leading up to the Solstice, I was dreaming with the intention to harness the power and potential of lucid dreaming, as a response to a number of synchronous events and a lucid dream I had where myself and a fellow dream worker of mine, wake up in a dream and go through an ancestral healing process. So, I’m very excited about the potential as a collective healing practice. When big changes need to happen in a short period of time, dreaming is both elegant and effective.
Thanks - enjoying your varied and interesting content here. I also have set up a new set of resources that can be purchased at www.stopnightmares.org although my 5 min animation will always be free
Excellent, will share in a future post!
Matthew/Charlie: Thank-you. Yes - I have clear memories of Lucid Dreaming as a child in primary school days - when I was still a single digit number - seven, eight years old? I have memories of maybe three times in my life waking with heart-thumping fear - knowing only that I had had a nightmare - no memory of what I had dreamed. And for many many years - even though knowing that surely I must have had dreams - really awaking thinking - another night - no dreams. In the past year or so - knowing I had been dreaming but that the instant I awoke - the memory of the dream itself dissolved. At present I am awaking with some images of some scenes! I will check out the lucid dream tutorials on YouTube - maybe I can get to the stage - I want to - that's for sure - and yes, sure - there are traumas in my life to get to grips with - not of the order necessarily of the Vets and others you spoke of - perhaps - but as you both said - we all suffer trauma/moral injury - betrayal - too! Thanks. Jim K
There could be some validity to the study regarding lucid dreaming. However, I would never suggest someone with diagnosed PTSD seek the services of someone without psychotherapy licensing or training. It’s a serious medical condition. The enthusiasm to help others is a great thing. And there are so many other better choices when it comes to healing from PTSD than a person that exclusively focuses on lucid dreaming.
In my experience:
— Ketamine is the most effective
— Neurofeedback and biofeedback are effective regulatory tools
— Somatic experiencing or body work is help with integration
— Ego state therapy or IFS offered by professional is helpful
— EMDR, Flash EMDR, hypnosis help with integration
— craniosacral therapy is helpful
Justin Havens in the UK works with elimination of nightmares and PTSD. He also uses flash EMDR which is highly effective.
https://www.justinhavens.com
I take issue with individuals who are trying to monetize and cash in on the ‘trauma informed’ trend. Trauma informed doesn’t really mean much as a term anymore. As a person with complex PTSD, yeah… working with someone that suggests they can reduce my symptoms of PTSD by whatever percentage with a very small sample size as a reference point — that would be a strong pass! Charlie Morley training people in 100 hours to work with clients with PTSD — not in the United States he’s not — at least not legally. We have laws around mental health licensing for good reason.
If people are being helped, great for them! But it’s never an ethical stance to offer one treatment as the silver bullet or the next greatest treatment to enhance one’s standing as a healer — as the one who can unlock the door and release one’s traumatic past.
People experience pain. People experience suffering. People experience grief. People experience rage and anger. People are violated. People are raped. People are almost killed. People are displaced and lose their homelands. People feel grief when their parents dies. People are not held. People are not supported. People have ancestors who were tortured. People have ancestors who were imprisoned.
These experiences often require therapy by licensed professionals trained in relational repair and attachment issues. Where do people go when they begin decompensation or flooding with trauma memories while in Charlie’s care?
Of course, Charlie’s got an online summit too. The winning formula to position yourself as an expert in the field. Do I get a free bonus prize when I sign up? Maybe a free beaded necklace?
Anna, thank you for your detailed and considered response; what you have written feels reflective of a deep hinterland of experience. I appreciate the time and attention you have given Resonant World.
Thank you, Matthew, for being sensitive and thoughtful. I realize that you mean well. I also become frustrated, at times by the way that trauma is framed in social media discourse. There’s obviously a lot of ways to conceptualize treatment as well as potential openings for innovation. I appreciate your curiosity and willingness to help others.