thank as usual Matthew for a splendid piece. I wonder how the sentence "It becomes much easier to propose models for how trauma may be passed down through generations, or live as a phenomenon in the collective psyche, if you start from the assumption that consciousness is an intrinsic feature of the fabric of reality." might work with the notion that "the fabric of reality is an intrinsic feature of consciousness".
In saying so, I do acknowledge how such playfulness is attractive to me for its own sake! But, I felt that this was also closer to the feel of what I was understanding from the piece (my projection?). It also makes sense to me from the perspective that psychosphere not only sits alongside atmosphere, hydrosphere et al in shaping homeostasis and signalling the well-being of the whole to the parts but also sits within a much greater "intelligence" (not even sure if that is the correct word!).
Gaia Theory is complicated, especially where it comes to planetary sentience, since it tends (in my opinion - I have conversations with usual friends about this!!) to set up a sense wherein human sentience is somehow other than that of the planet. This way perpetuates the Modern curse of disconnection, and the one way elevator of transcendence somehow reaching towards a higher self, and the X-Files observation that "the truth is out there".... sure enough, and, equally, as without so within.... I suppose that reclaiming the sense of being usually associated with "indigeneity" is to approach belonging and purpose and possibility with new eyes. It is to unpick all that blocks us in the natural processes of reasserting Presence - and, as we know, that which blocks natural processes of wholeness - healing - is trauma. And trauma drains the experience of being alive.....
Joseph Needleman (in "An Unknown World: Notes on the Meaning of the Earth") writes: "please don’t say that we have understood the place of man—that man is nothing but the most recent happy accident of mechanical, chance, random mutations provoked by the handy gamma rays bumping into the wormy chromosomes that make us what we are. No normal man, woman or child can really take that seriously unless they have inhaled the drug of scientism. Face it: We do not know what or who we are. And, now, with Earth and nature at the brink, we can no longer live without understanding the Earth, and we cannot understand the Earth without understanding man, and we cannot understand man without understanding ourselves. At the same time, like all of life and like the planet Earth itself, we are also children of the Sun. Father Sun, Mother Earth. If the Earth is alive, then the Sun must also be, if anything, even more alive. We need to stop in ourselves. We need to ponder this notion that the Sun is also alive. It will lead us far beyond scientism and far beyond poeticism, fabulism, far beyond the madness of what we call objectivity and the madness of what we call imagination.”
A further thought, having just watched Bernardo Kastrup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoJWqCH4Xrw who argues in this clip that in fact ALL consciousness is outside space-time, which I think is what you are also pointing towards above? For me the fascinating prospect is that quantum computing and AI -- the crowning achievements of science, in a certain sense -- could explode the materialist-reductionist paradigm they evolved out of. That's Simone's take in the book. And admittedly, I'd have no idea *how* that would happen. But if it did happen, then the conversation would move out of the realms of philosphy, psychedelic experimentation, wisdom traditions, and Indigenous cosmovision, and become part of the dominant scientific paradigm to come. And that could change a lot...? Or am I getting ahead of myself?
Mark, thank you, I love what you have written. Yes: "The fabric of reality is an intrinsic feature of consciousness" is exactly it. Appreciate your clarity on this; and will respond to your email!
wow, this is mind blowing. I've studied with Thomas Hubl for about 4 years now, but never connected the dots in this way. Thanks for the clarity that you write with.
thanks for your comment Kim! I would love to hear Thomas' take on the whole section with "Simone" in Pasulka's book. I wonder if he would recognise the "download process" they describe as equivalent to the "download meditation" (or "light meditation") he teaches.
thank as usual Matthew for a splendid piece. I wonder how the sentence "It becomes much easier to propose models for how trauma may be passed down through generations, or live as a phenomenon in the collective psyche, if you start from the assumption that consciousness is an intrinsic feature of the fabric of reality." might work with the notion that "the fabric of reality is an intrinsic feature of consciousness".
In saying so, I do acknowledge how such playfulness is attractive to me for its own sake! But, I felt that this was also closer to the feel of what I was understanding from the piece (my projection?). It also makes sense to me from the perspective that psychosphere not only sits alongside atmosphere, hydrosphere et al in shaping homeostasis and signalling the well-being of the whole to the parts but also sits within a much greater "intelligence" (not even sure if that is the correct word!).
Gaia Theory is complicated, especially where it comes to planetary sentience, since it tends (in my opinion - I have conversations with usual friends about this!!) to set up a sense wherein human sentience is somehow other than that of the planet. This way perpetuates the Modern curse of disconnection, and the one way elevator of transcendence somehow reaching towards a higher self, and the X-Files observation that "the truth is out there".... sure enough, and, equally, as without so within.... I suppose that reclaiming the sense of being usually associated with "indigeneity" is to approach belonging and purpose and possibility with new eyes. It is to unpick all that blocks us in the natural processes of reasserting Presence - and, as we know, that which blocks natural processes of wholeness - healing - is trauma. And trauma drains the experience of being alive.....
Joseph Needleman (in "An Unknown World: Notes on the Meaning of the Earth") writes: "please don’t say that we have understood the place of man—that man is nothing but the most recent happy accident of mechanical, chance, random mutations provoked by the handy gamma rays bumping into the wormy chromosomes that make us what we are. No normal man, woman or child can really take that seriously unless they have inhaled the drug of scientism. Face it: We do not know what or who we are. And, now, with Earth and nature at the brink, we can no longer live without understanding the Earth, and we cannot understand the Earth without understanding man, and we cannot understand man without understanding ourselves. At the same time, like all of life and like the planet Earth itself, we are also children of the Sun. Father Sun, Mother Earth. If the Earth is alive, then the Sun must also be, if anything, even more alive. We need to stop in ourselves. We need to ponder this notion that the Sun is also alive. It will lead us far beyond scientism and far beyond poeticism, fabulism, far beyond the madness of what we call objectivity and the madness of what we call imagination.”
A further thought, having just watched Bernardo Kastrup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoJWqCH4Xrw who argues in this clip that in fact ALL consciousness is outside space-time, which I think is what you are also pointing towards above? For me the fascinating prospect is that quantum computing and AI -- the crowning achievements of science, in a certain sense -- could explode the materialist-reductionist paradigm they evolved out of. That's Simone's take in the book. And admittedly, I'd have no idea *how* that would happen. But if it did happen, then the conversation would move out of the realms of philosphy, psychedelic experimentation, wisdom traditions, and Indigenous cosmovision, and become part of the dominant scientific paradigm to come. And that could change a lot...? Or am I getting ahead of myself?
Mark, thank you, I love what you have written. Yes: "The fabric of reality is an intrinsic feature of consciousness" is exactly it. Appreciate your clarity on this; and will respond to your email!
wow, this is mind blowing. I've studied with Thomas Hubl for about 4 years now, but never connected the dots in this way. Thanks for the clarity that you write with.
thanks for your comment Kim! I would love to hear Thomas' take on the whole section with "Simone" in Pasulka's book. I wonder if he would recognise the "download process" they describe as equivalent to the "download meditation" (or "light meditation") he teaches.